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		<title>Why Some Right-Wing Christians Love Ron Paul (And Why Liberals Really Shouldn&#8217;t)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Coss</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#160; By Digby , Hullabaloo Posted on December 28, 2011, Printed on December 29, 2011 http://www.alternet.org/story/153594/why_some_right-wing_christians_love_ron_paul_%28and_why_liberals_really_shouldn%27t%29 I wrote about Ron Paul&#8217;s antebellum politics the other day. Here&#8217;s one way in which it plays out. Paul&#8217;s state chair in Iowa is a &#8230; <a href="http://robertcoss.com/blog/2011/12/29/why-some-right-wing-christians-love-ron-paul-and-why-liberals-really-shouldnt/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<h5 style="margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 15.0pt; margin-left: 0in;"><strong><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: x-small;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;">By Digby , Hullabaloo<br />
Posted on </span></span></strong>December 28, 2011, Printed on December 29, 2011<br />
<a href="http://www.alternet.org/story/153594/why_some_right-wing_christians_love_ron_paul_%28and_why_liberals_really_shouldn%27t%29">http://www.alternet.org/story/153594/why_some_right-wing_christians_love_ron_paul_%28and_why_liberals_really_shouldn%27t%29</a></h5>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">I wrote about Ron Paul&#8217;s <a href="http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2011/12/antebellum-libertarianism.html">antebellum politics the other day</a>. Here&#8217;s one way in which it plays out. Paul&#8217;s state chair in </span></span>Iowa is a member of the Christian Right and an extreme one at that) and he&#8217;s been lining up social conservative support. One of the Pastors endorsing Paul is the Reverend Phillip Kayser who <a href="http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/12/ron-paul-hired-anti-gay-activist-to-run-iowa-campaign.php">explains his reasons for supporting him to TPM</a>:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">Reached by phone, Kayser confirmed to TPM that he believed in reinstating BIblical punishments for homosexuals — including the death penalty — even if he didn’t see much hope for it happening anytime soon. While he said he and Paul disagree on gay rights, noting that Paul recently voted for repealing Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, he supported the campaign because he believed Paul’s federalist take on the Constitution would allow states more latitude to implement fundamentalist law. Especially since Kayser believes that there is no separation of Church and State under his own interpretation of the Constitution. </span></span></p>
<p style="margin-left: .5in;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">“Under a Ron Paul presidency, states would be freed up to not have political correctness imposed on them, but obviously some state would follow what’s politically correct,” he said. “What he’s trying to do, whether he agrees with the Constitution’s position or not, is restrict himself to the Constitution. That is something I very much appreciate.” </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">When I talk about Ron Paul&#8217;s antebellum politics this is what I mean &#8212; a reversion to the way the country was fashioned before 1860. Indeed, these states&#8217; rights arguments stem from the original arguments over slavery. In this case, the position is being held by someone who believes that gays should be executed under biblical law. The entire idea of inalienable rights under the US Constitution is called into question by this kind of states&#8217; rights (which is interesting since the whole thing is supposedly predicated on an originalist view of the Constitution.)</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">Evidently, there is more support for this than just among the Paul supporters. I&#8217;ve had some conversations with liberals who see this as a logical outgrowth of people&#8217;s frustration with the federal government although I certainly don&#8217;t think they would be in favor of allowing former American states to secede so that they can execute gays. But that&#8217;s the game plan among many of these states&#8217; rights advocates, so these battles will inevitably be had. Again. It&#8217;s the most long running feature of American political life.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">Ron Paul, who is against drug prohibition, believes that <em><span style="font-style: italic;">states </span></em>should be able to lock up people for drug possession:</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">Q: In your 1988 campaign you said, “All drugs should be decriminalized. Drugs should be distributed by any adult to other adults. There should be no controls on production, supply or purchase for adults.” Is that still your position? </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">A: Yeah. It’s sort of like alcohol. Alcohol’s a deadly drug, kills more people than anything else. And today the absurdity on this war on drugs has just been horrible. Now the federal government takes over and overrules states where state laws permit medicinal marijuana 1 for people dying of cancer. The federal government goes in and arrests these people, put them in prison with mandatory sentences. This war on drugs is totally out of control. If you want to regulate cigarettes and alcohol and drugs, it should be at the state level. That’s where I stand on it. The federal government has no prerogatives on this.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">Q: But you would decriminalize it?</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">A: I would, at the federal level. I don’t have control over the states. And that’s why the Constitution’s there.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">I guess I just don&#8217;t see why that is considered to be libertarian. <span style="background: yellow;">Just because you break up state power into fifty entities instead of one, it doesn&#8217;t make  <em></em><em><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">their</span></em> infringements on liberty ok, does it?</span> On a philosophical and ideological level, libertarians should be clear that infringements of people&#8217;s rights should <em><span style="font-style: italic;">never</span></em> be subject to the whims of the state &#8212; whether it&#8217;s </span></span>Hawaii or the United States of America. So why doesn&#8217;t Ron Paul say this? There&#8217;s no reason that his quixotic career couldn&#8217;t also entail a drive to change the constitution, or ensure that all 50 states overturn drug prohibition. He has nothing to lose by stating the libertarian principles and saying that basic individual rights are inalienable.</p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">But he doesn&#8217;t. He <em></em><em><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">defends</span></em> states&#8217; rights to infringe on individual liberty as being under the Constitution but what he&#8217;s really defending are the Articles of Confederation. This isn&#8217;t libertarianism. It&#8217;s <a href="http://www.alternet.org/teaparty/148593/tentherism:_the_bizarre_ideology_behind_tea_partiers%27_plans_to_kill_social_security_and_child_labor_laws">&#8220;tentherism&#8221;</a> disguised as libertarianism.</span></span></p>
<p><em><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt; font-style: italic;">Check out Digby&#8217;s blog, <a href="http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/">Hullabaloo</a>. </span></span></em></p>
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		<title>2010 Score!  States 1  Feds 0</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 00:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Robert Coss</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The States have a long way to go but it looks like they might be trying to make a come back! Go States!!! Sanity is coming back to our government. This is a great read. clipped from utah.tenthamendmentcenter.com In a &#8230; <a href="http://robertcoss.com/blog/2010/03/04/2010-score-states-1-feds-0/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>The States have a long way to go but it looks like they might be trying to make a come back!  Go States!!!</p>
<p>Sanity is coming back to our government.  This is a great read.</p></div>
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		<title>the 10th</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 15:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>good review of human nature, state and federal power.</div>
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<td valign="top"><!-- CLIPPED FROM: http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/12/18/reductio-ad-racism-godwins-law-and-the-10th-amendment/ --> It would be foolish to think we can trust the federal government to act in accordance with freedom at all times, any more than we can trust the governments of each state to do so. Just ask the Sioux and the Cherokee. Or Japanese-Americans in 1942.</td>
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<td valign="top"><!-- CLIPPED FROM: http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/12/18/reductio-ad-racism-godwins-law-and-the-10th-amendment/ -->The best protection for liberty is a stiff and dynamic political competition between the states, and between states and the federal government, that allows for ideas to flourish or die on their merits. In that way, Americans cannot ever become permanently trapped by authoritarianism at any level.</td>
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		<title>New Mexico Calls on Fed to &#8220;Cease and Desist&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Robert Coss</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[My Government]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[10th Amendment]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Constitution]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Liberty]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[clipped from www.tenthamendmentcenter.com New Mexico state representative Dennis Roch has introduced House Joint Resolution 27 to call on the Federal Government to “cease and desist” actions that go beyond the scope of powers authorized to it by the Constitution &#8211; &#8230; <a href="http://robertcoss.com/blog/2009/03/03/new-mexico-calls-on-fed-to-cease-and-desist/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<td valign="top"><!-- CLIPPED FROM: http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/03/02/serving-notice-in-new-mexico/ -->New Mexico state representative Dennis Roch has introduced House Joint Resolution 27 to call on the Federal Government to “cease and desist” actions that go beyond the scope of powers authorized to it by the Constitution &#8211; and reserved to the States and the People by the 10th Amendment.</td>
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<td valign="top"><!-- CLIPPED FROM: http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/03/02/serving-notice-in-new-mexico/ -->“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”; and</td>
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<td valign="top"><!-- CLIPPED FROM: http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/03/02/serving-notice-in-new-mexico/ -->WHEREAS, Article IV, Section 4 of the Constitution of the United States says, “The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government”, and the ninth amendment states that, “The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people”; and</td>
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<td valign="top"><!-- CLIPPED FROM: http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/03/02/serving-notice-in-new-mexico/ -->WHEREAS, a number of proposals from previous administrations and some now pending from the present administration and from congress may further violate the constitution of the United States;</td>
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