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		<title>&#8220;The Country is broke because the System is Fixed&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Coss</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Moyers &#038; Company 108: Encore: On Winner Take All Politics from BillMoyers.com on Vimeo. Encore Broadcast: On Winner-Take-All Politics &#124; Moyers &#38; Company &#124; BillMoyers.com why did they do it? Jacob and I genuinely believe that it&#8217;s an optimistic story &#8230; <a href="http://robertcoss.com/blog/2012/03/02/untitled/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://vimeo.com/37644878">Moyers &#038; Company 108: Encore: On Winner Take All Politics</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user9013478">BillMoyers.com</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
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<div class="diigoContentInner">Jacob and I genuinely believe that it&#8217;s an optimistic story compared with the story that we&#8217;re typically told about what&#8217;s been happening to the American economy.  Because what we&#8217;re typically told is there&#8217;s nothing you can do about this, that it&#8217;s just an economic reality, there&#8217;s no point in blaming any political party.</div>
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<div class="diigoContentInner">But the real action is inside the top one percent.  If you go to the top tenth of one percent or the top hundredth of one percent, you know, you would need a much bigger graph to show what&#8217;s happening to incomes for that for that more select group.  Because they&#8217;ve gone up much faster than have incomes for just your average top one percent kind of person.</div>
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<div class="diigoContentInner"><strong>PAUL PIERSON</strong>:&nbsp;In some ways, the fundamental myth that we&#8217;re trying to break out of is the idea that there&#8217;s something natural out there called &quot;the American economy&quot; that is prior to government, prior to politics. And that government, if it&#8217;s involved at all, is only involved sort of at the end of the day, maybe tidying things up around the edges, or redistributing money from some people to another.</div>
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<div class="diigoContentInner">the richest one-in-a-thousand households are truly living in an unparalleled age</div>
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<div class="diigoContentInner"><strong>BILL MOYERS</strong>:&nbsp;Well, as you speak, I can hear all of those free-marketers out they say, &quot;Come on, Piers&#8211; come on Hacker it is the global economy.  It&#8217;s that cheap labor overseas.  It&#8217;s those high technology skills that you say are required, these deep forces that actually are beyond our control, and are making inevitable this division between the top and everyone else.&quot;  Right?  That&#8217;s what they&#8217;re saying as they listen to you right now.</div>
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<div class="diigoContentInner">When you start to look within the top one percent, and look at what government has done to help those people out, through taxes, through changes in the market, financial deregulation and the like, and through protecting them from efforts to try to push back.</div>
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<div class="diigoContentInner">And what we&#8217;ve seen in the last 30 years is a gradual erosion of the firewalls that protect our democracy from the inequalities that are occurring in the market.  Money has come into politics much more.</div>
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<p>So the whole idea of noblesse oblige and such and that the rich were supposed to have special responsibilities, that&#8217;s all gone, right?  They have a God-given right to the lowest conceivable taxes.</p>
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<p>When you put anti-regulators in charge of the agencies who believe that regulation is bad and completely unnecessary and they destroy it, creates a self-fulfilling prophecy that produces massive fraud at the most elite levels.</p>
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<div class="diigoContentInner">I want to see money out of government.  I&rsquo;m a very big proponent of campaign finance reform, of limiting the role of lobbyists, and limiting the role of corporate personhood</div>
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<div class="diigoContentInner">But how do you explain the fact that we&#8217;ve seen over this period where the rich have gotten richer the tax rates on the richest of the rich come dramatically down.</div>
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<p><strong>BILL MOYERS</strong>:&nbsp;How can this happen?  How could Washington turn its back on the broad middle class to favor a relatively few at the top in a democracy?</p>
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<p><strong>JACOB HACKER</strong>: &nbsp;What has really changed is the organization of American politics, particularly the organizations that represent the deepest pocketed members of American society.  What we&#8217;ve seen as an organizational revolution over the last 30 years that has meant that business, and Wall Street, and ideological conservative organizations that are pushing for free market policies have all become much more influential.</p>
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<p><strong>JACOB HACKER</strong>:&nbsp;When citizens are organized and when they press their claims forcefully, when there are reformist leaders within government and outside it who work on their behalf, then we do see reform.  This is the story of the American democratic experiment of wave after wave of reform leading to a much broader franchise, to a much broader understanding of the American idea.</p>
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<p>In the mid-20th century we saw a period in which income gains were broadly distributed, in which middle class Americans had voice through labor unions, through civic organizations and through, ultimately, their government.  We&#8217;ve seen an erosion of that world, but just because it&rsquo;s lost ground doesn&#8217;t mean it can&#8217;t be saved.  And so in writing this book we were hoping to sort of tell Americans that what was valuable in the past could be a part of our future.</p>
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<div class="diigoContentInner"><strong>BILL MOYERS</strong>:&nbsp;But if both political parties are indebted to the winners where do the losers find an army to join?</div>
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<div class="diigoContentInner"><em>How Washington Made the Rich Richer&mdash;and Turned Its Back on the Middle Class</em></div>
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<div class="diigoContentInner">You know, if you look to our northern neighbor, Canada, it had nothing like the same degree of banking crisis the United States did.</div>
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<div class="diigoContentInner">when you look at other affluent democracies that have also been exposed to these same kinds of pressures, who are actually more open &#8212; smaller economies are often more open to the global economy than the United States is &#8212; you don&#8217;t see anything like the run-up in inequality, especially this very concentrated high-end inequality, in most of these other countries that you see in the United States. Which to us, really, was a very strong clue that we need to understand why the American response to globalization, to technological change has been different than the response of most other wealthy democracies.</div>
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<div class="diigoContentInner">BILL BLACK:  &nbsp;What we have is recurrent, intensifying financial crises driven by elite fraud and now it&#8217;s done with almost absolute impunity.</div>
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<div class="diigoContentInner">And at the same time, when those risks have become apparent, there has been a studious effort on the part of political leaders to try to protect against government stepping in and regulating or changing the rules.</div>
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<div class="diigoContentInner">Within a few weeks after the legislation was passed, we all get a letter that says Congress and the President have given you this tax cut.</div>
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<div class="diigoContentInner">these were all tax breaks that were worth a vast amount to the richest of Americans and worth very little to middle class Americans.</div>
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<div class="diigoContentInner">what is wrong with the priorities of our society that we cannot figure out how to translate our great wealth, our ingenuity, the hard work of our citizens, into a better standard of living that is shared broadly across the population?</div>
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<div class="diigoContentInner"><strong>BILL MOYERS</strong>&nbsp;You write, we have a government that&#8217;s been promoting inequality, and at the same time, as you just said, failing to counteract it.  This has been going on, you write, 30 years or more.  And here&#8217;s the key sentence: Step by step, and debate by debate, our public officials have rewritten the rules of the economy in ways that favor the few at the expense of the many.</div>
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<div class="diigoContentInner">&ldquo;We wanted to know how our economy stopped working to provide prosperity and security for the broad middle class.&rdquo;</div>
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<p><strong>JACOB HACKER</strong>:&nbsp;There was a poll done in 2010 that asked Americans whether the federal government had helped a great deal the following groups:  large financial institutions and banks, 53 percent of Americans said they&#8217;d been helped a great deal.</p>
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<p>What about large corporations? 44 percent of Americans said they&#8217;d been helped a great deal. Then they asked, well, has the federal government helped the middle class a great deal? And do you want to guess what percent of Americans said that they&#8217;d been helped a great deal&#8211; the middle class had been helped a great deal?  Two percent.</p>
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<p><strong>BILL MOYERS</strong>:&nbsp;Two percent?</p>
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<p><strong>BILL MOYERS</strong>:&nbsp;Protecting them?</p>
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<p><strong>JACOB HACKER</strong>:&nbsp;Well, I think this is something that really needs to be understood.  You know, these large shifts in our economy had been propelled in part by what government has done, say deregulating the market, the financial markets, to allow wealthy people to gamble with their own and other peoples&#8217; money, and ways to put all of us at risk, but allow them to make huge fortunes.</p>
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<div class="diigoContentInner"><strong>JACOB HACKER</strong>: &nbsp;We think the story that&rsquo;s told about how the global economy has shifted clearly matters.  But that it doesn&rsquo;t get to the sort of really powerful role that government played in adapting to this new environment and in changing the well-being of people in the middle and at the top.</div>
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<div class="diigoContentInner">it was really designed to front-load the relatively modest benefits for the middle class, and to back-load the benefits for the wealthy.</div>
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<div class="diigoContentInner">Income inequality that statistics on income inequality now suggest that inequality is higher in the U.S. than it is in Egypt.</div>
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<div class="diigoContentInner">So, that top one percent saw its real incomes increase by over 250 percent between 1979 and 2006</div>
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<div class="diigoContentInner">1979 to 2007, so all the increased household income over that period, around 40 percent of those gains went to the top one percent. And if you look at the bottom 90 percent they had less than that combined.</div>
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<div class="diigoContentInner">And we&#8217;re, we are deep believers in the ability of American democracy to reform itself, of the strength of our democratic institutions.  But they&#8217;re in very serious disrepair right now.  And we&#8217;ve seen in recent political fights a sort of paralysis and a broad loss of faith in government. And that sort of secession of the wealthy from our economic life that we&#8217;ve already started to see could be matched by a secession of them from our political life and a sort of loss of that broad democracy that was characteristic of mid-20th century.  That&#8217;s the greatest fear that we have.</div>
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<div class="diigoContentInner">understand that inequality of income and wealth is part of a capitalist society, but it can&#8217;t overwhelm our democracy.</div>
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<div class="diigoContentInner"><strong>PAUL PIERSON</strong>:&nbsp;If you listen to many public officials over the over the last 20 or 30 years as they&#8217;ve started to recognize that inequality has grown, typically what they&#8217;ll say is, this is a result just of economic change.  It&#8217;s a result of globalization changes in technology that have advantaged the educated at those with high skills at the expense of the uneducated.</div>
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<div class="diigoContentInner">those top 400 tax payers, they&#8217;ve seen their tax rates decline so much that it&#8217;s worth about $46 million for every one-</div>
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		<title>Why Evangelicals Don&#8217;t Care When Rich White Conservatives Defile Marriage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Coss</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gingrich doesn’t live by the strict sexual rules laid out by conservatives, because those rules are meant for other people: the poor, Democrats, gays, and minorities. January 25, 2012 Photo Credit: Shutterstock Newt Gingrich’s win in the South Carolina primary &#8230; <a href="http://robertcoss.com/blog/2012/01/30/my-cwhy-evangelicals-dont-care-when-rich-white-conservatives-defile-marriage/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">Gingrich doesn’t live by the strict sexual rules laid out by conservatives, because those rules are meant for other people: the poor, Democrats, gays, and minorities. </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em></em><em><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">January 25, 2012</span></span></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><img class="story-image/" style="width: 310px;" src="http://robertcoss.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/image00127.gif" alt="" width="413" height="293" align="right" hspace="12" /><em><span style="font-size: x-small;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-style: italic;">Photo Credit: Shutterstock</span></span></em></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">Newt Gingrich’s win in the </span></span>South Carolina primary looks like it may not be an outlier; <a href="http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-01-25/rising-gingrich-catching-up-with-romney-in-florida-poll-shows.html">Gingrich’s poll numbers are rising rapidly in Florida</a>, and he has a good chance of beating Romney there as well. Gingrich is doing well in no small part because he has so much support amongst evangelical Christians; so much so that many evangelical leaders <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/post/evangelical-leaders-vote-to-endorse-santorum-was-sharply-divided-participants-say/2012/01/16/gIQAHpaH3P_blog.html">refused to go along with an attempt to unify the Christian right</a> behind Santorum.</p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">In </span></span>South Carolina, <a href="http://www.heraldonline.com/2012/01/23/3682021/unpredictable-politics.html">evangelical Christians voted for Gingrich 2-to-1</a> over boring family man Mitt Romney. For anyone who takes seriously the notion that evangelical Christians actually care about things like family and fidelity, this support for Gingrich is baffling, since he has a history of serial adultery that he barely bothers to disavow. But a closer examination of the situation makes clear what’s going on: for the Republican base, “family values” don’t actually matter, but are just a gloss painted over what really motivates them: reactionary rage. They love Gingrich because he’s a flaming ball of rage they can wield against everyone they hate.<span style="font-family: Times; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Times;"> </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">The sexual double standard is the most obvious way the us vs. them mentality works. There’s nothing the modern American conservative loves more than to decry our country&#8217;s supposedly declining sexual morals. Once the Republicans swept state legislatures and the House of Representatives, punishing sexual freedom became their number one priority, which manifested in nearly 1,000 bills restricting reproductive rights in state legislatures and a bill attacking private insurance funding of abortion in the House. Eventually, House Republicans threatened to shut down the federal government in order to defund family planning clinics, basically because they’re in the business of providing contraception and STD prevention and treatment. All this while the base continues to push abstinence-only and reject gay marriage on the grounds that it’s not “traditional.” But when it comes to a serial adulterer like Gingrich, he gets a pass. After all, he’s one of theirs, and if you’re in the tribe, you get a lot more leeway. </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">Nowhere is this more obvious than in the reaction to Marianne Gingrich sticking her head out, as she periodically does, to remind the world of what a terrible man her ex-husband is. This time she added the juicy detail that Newt basically demanded that he get to have both his wife and his mistress at the same time. It was a reminder that while this flagrant cheating was going on, Gingrich was repeatedly moralizing in public over President Clinton’s adultery. To this day, the GOP base still regards </span></span>Clinton as some kind of perverted sex maniac. But Gingrich? Well, during the South Carolina debate when Marianne’s interview with ABC was brought up, the audience loudly booed the mere mention of her name. For the Republican base, Gingrich not only gets to cheat, he also gets to flaunt it in his wife’s face; but a Democrat like Clinton’s more secretive and brief affairs are unforgivable.</p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">Gingrich doesn’t live by the strict sexual rules laid out by conservatives, because those rules are meant for other people. Sex is a weapon being used against all those classes of Americans they don’t like: non-white people, gays, non-Christians, liberals, Democrats, people who have to work for a living, poor people, Democratic politicians. </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">With rising levels of pious posing amongst Republicans, there has been some half-hearted attempts to pretend that they hold everyone to the same standards, which helped created the spectacle of Gov. Mark Sanford’s resignation. Gingrich represents a tossing-away of that feigned concern for fairness and a return to what conservatives really love best, a pedal-to-the-metal defense of straight white male privilege, especially that of wealthy white men. He’s the living id of the Republican Party: a spoiled brat who takes what he wants without apology, and then dresses down perceived inferiors for their supposed lack of morals and work ethic. You could easily imagine him drifting out of Tiffany’s, having bought wife number three fancy baubles with money generated from <a href="http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/maddow-newt-gingrich-direct-mail-scam-artist" target="_blank">one of his direct mail schemes</a> only to pause to lecture a homeless vet on how he deserved his fate because he didn’t sacrifice enough. </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">In the Republican worldview, sex is a luxury item to be reserved for the privileged, and everyone else who indulges deserves whatever horrible fate befalls them. In the world imagined by Gingrich and his fan base, rich people get to say they’re sorry and run for public office if they have sex out of wedlock; poor people should see their health decline because they have an STD but can’t afford to see a doctor to treat it. The wealthy can afford contraception and have all the sex they want, but if Republicans succeed in cutting off family planning subsidies, poor people will go without. If abortion is banned, wealthy women will be able to travel to get abortions or depend on discreet doctors, but the poor will simply be forced to have babies. </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">Of course, Republicans know better than anyone that simply giving into their worst instincts and promoting the career of someone like Newt Gingrich tends to turn off the moderates and swing voters they need to win elections. But it seems this year they don’t really care. Conservatives seem sick and tired of paying lip service to equality and family values, and instead are just enjoying the ride of cheering for the screw-you-I-got-mine guy. Will they wise up before it’s too late and Gingrich has the nomination? At this point, it’s hard to say.</span></span></p>
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<h2>Thomas Ferguson: How to Take Back Our Political System From the 1%</h2>
<p>By Thomas Ferguson, AlterNet<br />
Posted on November 3, 2011, Printed on November 5, 2011<br />
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<p><em>The following has been adapted from a version of a speech delivered to Occupy Boston by Thomas Ferguson, the father of the &#8220;Investment Theory of Politics.&#8221;</em></p>
<div>I’m honored to speak to you today about money and politics, but it’s not the first time I’ve been here. This is actually the third time I’ve visited your encampment. The first couple of times I walked around and looked at the signs. Many were priceless; the best tutorials I’ve ever seen on the subject of money and politics. My favorite was the one that advised that Congressmen and women should emulate NASCAR drivers and show us their sponsors. Another styled contemporary capitalism “socialism for the 1%.” And many sharply attacked the Supreme Court’s <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._Federal_Election_Commission">Citizens United decision</a>, which helped throw open the floodgates to the tidal wave of secret money that is now engulfing American elections.</div>
<div>I’m a social scientist, so I actually counted: about a third of all the signs that day had money and politics as their themes. It was obvious that you here at Occupy Boston and your colleagues in New York, Oakland, Chicago, and other cities have already grasped the heart of the problem of money and politics in America: that we live in a money-driven political system that works pretty well for the 1%, but no one else.</div>
<div>So I begin by thanking you for reminding the rest of us about what really matters: That our problem right now is not “the government.” And the task is not to dismantle the social achievements of the New Deal so that citizens can look on cheering as people who failed to buy medical insurance bleed to death or old folks whose pensions and home values collapsed in the wake of the Lehman bankruptcy lose their homes.</div>
<div>It is to force government to take account of the interests of the 99% of Americans who have been left holding the bag for bank bailouts, bonuses, and corporate welfare as they scramble to find jobs and dig themselves out of debt. The state has to be rescued from the clutches of the 1% and made responsive to the interests of the broad public.</div>
<div>I know that you’re getting all kinds of advice about programs and what to do next. I’d rather not join that parade. I want to make a few remarks about political money, but my first suggestion is that you just take your time. Think through the situation and don’t get excited about heated demands for immediate “programs.&#8221;</div>
<div>You are powerfully influencing American politics just by directing attention to the 1% and big money’s hold on American politics. It is a message that makes the establishments of both political parties and the mass media tremble, lest it transmit to the rest the citizenry, which is well aware that something is rotten, but not always sure exactly what is causing it.</div>
<div>Disregard claims that most Americans don’t yet have a clear view of you. In the U.S., many attempts to describe public opinion by analyzing polls are really barely disguised attempts to influence it. The lesson I extract from the early polls is that to the extent most of Americans hear about you, they like your movement. They share your rage at the banks and Wall Street and a political system in which both major parties demand more and more austerity.</div>
<div>Only weeks after you surged in the streets, your numbers are much better than the Tea Party’s. I would guess that in part that is because many Americans have favorably noted your culture of non-violence, tolerance, and respect for individual persons. The contrast with the cults of violence growing up elsewhere in the system is obvious and infinitely refreshing.</div>
<div>Now let’s talk for a few minutes about money and politics. Mostly I want to talk about possible remedies, but first a few remarks about the problem itself.</div>
<div>Firstly, the rot is very deep. In short pieces for the <a href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7ead8528-b7af-11e0-8523-00144feabdc0.html"><em>Financial Times</em></a>, the <a href="http://www.washingtonspectator.org/articles/20111015postedprices.cfm"><em>Washington Spectator</em></a>, and some scholarly work, I’ve focused attention on the way both parties in Congress now “post prices” for committee slots, chair positions, and leadership posts. Congress today is all too reminiscent of Best Buy or Target: You want a committee slot or an important leadership post, you buy it. The result is a kind of arms race in contributions, which just gets worse over time. Most Americans don’t know this. When they learn it, they usually are disgusted.</div>
<div>Secondly, the astronomical sums politicians now collect to run for office define only part of the problem. As Rob Johnson and I documented in a paper, the disparity between regulators’ salaries and what you can make in the private sector has transformed our regulatory institutions (including the White House staff) into employment agencies for the industries – like finance – that they are supposed to regulate. This has nothing to do directly with running for office. It won’t be fixed by fixing campaign spending.</div>
<div>At the deepest level, it underscores the importance of your emphasis on equality. For the corruption of our regulatory institutions really reflects the workings of economic inequality in the government as a whole. At some point – and we’re past it – economic inequality begins to shade into political tyranny. Think tanks and policy institutes dependent on large sums of money may help conceal this, but they not only don’t stop it, they themselves are mostly part of the problem. There is no substitute for a popular movement if you want to keep democracy.</div>
<div>Now about remedies. First, let’s face it. We might as well be back in the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilded_Age">Gilded Age</a>. The Supreme Court appears determined to sweep away just about any impediments to big money’s sway in politics. I thus conclude that Dylan Ratigan and others who are campaigning to amend the Constitution to make it clear that the government has the power to regulate money in elections are right. I would not open Pandora’s Box by calling a constitutional convention; I would just try to move such an amendment through the normal process of passage by Congress and ratification by states. I would also be very careful about language. Potential threats to free speech are not fantasies; careless language could encourage tyranny. Any such amendment, I think, needs to make it clear that corporations are not to be regarded as natural persons and are not entitled to protections as though they were. But that’s not enough: we cannot have our political system dominated by a handful of super rich individuals.</div>
<div>Such an amendment also needs to write into stone the option of true public financing of elections. The central contention of my <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investment_theory_of_party_competition">“investment” approach to party competition</a> is that classical theories of democracy greatly underestimate the costs voters face in trying to control the state. Those costs are real; somebody has to pay them. Thus, in the real world, either we all pay a little or the 1% pay the whole bill and control the system.</div>
<div>The idea of a constitutional amendment daunts many people, because they usually take a long time to pass. But the Seventeenth Amendment providing for direct election of U.S. Senators passed remarkably quickly once Americans realized that the old Senate was then the seat of a “Millionaires Club.” I think we are approaching a time when something like that could happen again.</div>
<div>Whatever you think of that, some major measures clearly could be taken that would be easier to put across. There is no question, for example, that Congress has the right to make its own rules. If the Congress decided to ban representatives from accepting money from anyone with an interest in legislation before committees he or she sat on, for example, it could do that. Nobody’s speech would be infringed; only perhaps, our politicians’ lifestyles. Membership on the now ridiculously swollen House Financial Services Committee would plunge, but the improvement would be major.</div>
<div>States also have the right to force Super Pacs in their jurisdiction to disclose their contributors. In addition, the ability of these secret conduits to operate underground derives not just from Supreme Court decisions, but the determination of the Federal Election Commission not to enforce laws on the books. It is time to press for a truly independent FEC that would enforce the law. While of course, continuing to defend public financing from its legions of foes in legislatures and courts.</div>
<p>Obviously money in politics is not the only issue that merits your attention. Let’s not forget, for example, that Congressional Super Committee on the Budget reports very soon. It would be the height of irony if, as Occupy Wall Street develops, what remains of the social safety net from the New Deal disappears at Thanksgiving time. But in its short existence, Occupy Wall Street has highlighted the problems of money and politics in a way no other force in American society has. You have put your finger on the pivotal issue of our time, which is whether democracy in America can survive.</p>
<div><em>*This essay is adapted from Ferguson&#8217;s talk to Occupy Boston on October 24, 2011.    </em></div>
<p><em> Thomas Ferguson is Professor of Political Science at the University of Massachusetts Boston and the author of &#8216;Golden Rule: The Investment Theory Party Competition and the Logic of Money-Driven Political Systems.&#8217; </em></p>
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<p>I know a lot has materialized since 2004, but I don&#8217;t think this would change Alan&#8217;s agenda. We should not occupy countries and expect there to be no blow back anymore than thinking we would welcome China to set up military camp in our neighborhood.  And I don&#8217;t want to pay $1 billion a week supporting it.  And infinitely more important is the cost of lives.  Anybody remember what the total loss of life has been for them and for us?  Yeah, not something we like to think about huh?  So easy, so convenient, so wrong.  God have mercy on us.</p>
<p><strong>Peace, Propaganda &amp; the Promised Land</strong> provides a striking comparison of U.S. and international media coverage of the crisis in the Middle East, zeroing in on how structural distortions in U.S. coverage have reinforced false perceptions of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. This pivotal documentary exposes how the foreign policy interests of American political elites&#8211;oil, and a need to have a secure military base in the region, among others&#8211;work in combination with Israeli public relations strategies to exercise a powerful influence over how news from the region is reported.</p>
<p><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6604775898578139565#" target="_blank"><strong>Peace, Propaganda and the Promised Land: Media &amp; the Israel-Palestine Conflict</strong></a></p>
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		<title>Ten Most Wanted Corrupt Politicians for 2009</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 22:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Robert Coss</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[And some day we will honor the top ten (just as soon as we get them). clipped from www.judicialwatch.org Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, today released its 2009 list of Washington&#8217;s &#8220;Ten Most &#8230; <a href="http://robertcoss.com/blog/2010/01/10/ten-most-wanted-corrupt-politicians-for-2009/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>And some day we will honor the top ten (just as soon as we get them).</div>
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		<title>Michael Badnarik Update &#8211; from Michael Badnarik!!!!</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 22:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Robert Coss</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I&#8217;m glad to hear this.</div>
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		<title>For Republicans Only; Everyone Else Keep Informing Others</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 12:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Robert Coss</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is an example to follow. Republicans say what many Christians want to hear. In addition, because they say they are Christians many believe them and faithfully but blindly support them. Eventually, they find out how immoral they are. At &#8230; <a href="http://robertcoss.com/blog/2008/12/25/for-republicans-only-everyone-else-keep-pressing-on/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Here is an example to follow.</p>
<p>Republicans say what many Christians want to hear.  In addition, because they say they are Christians many believe them and faithfully but blindly support them.  Eventually, they find out how immoral they are.</p>
<p>At this point their moral principles are tested. They either suppress their conscience (very easy to do) or they speak out (very hard to do).  When they speak out, they lose their friends, but that is only the beginning.  If they continue to speak out they put their life in danger.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, this is the path Connell chose to take.  It is the very path Christ took.</p>
<p>Christians either need to deny Christ or take on the challenge presented by Him.</p>
<p>John 18:37 &#8230;“For this I have been born, and for this I have come into the world, to testify to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth hears My voice.&#8221;</p>
<p>If they would do what Connell did, the Republican Party would reform.</p></div>
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<td valign="top"><!-- CLIPPED FROM: http://www.truthout.org/122408J --><strong>Mike Connell, the chief IT consultant to Karl Rove, reportedly<br />
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<td valign="top"><!-- CLIPPED FROM: http://www.truthout.org/122408J -->Mike Connell was, in fact &#8211; many said that&#8217;s<br />
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<td valign="top"><!-- CLIPPED FROM: http://www.truthout.org/122408J -->He told &#8211; Connell told Spoonamore that one of the<br />
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		<title>Rove&#8217;s IT Guru Warned of Sabotage Before Fatal Plane Crash; Was Set to Testify</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 12:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Robert Coss</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[clipped from www.truthout.org Monday 22 December 2008 Mike Connell, the chief IT consultant to Karl Rove, reportedly asked for protective custody from the government before he died. Michael Connell was deposed one day before the election this year by attorneys &#8230; <a href="http://robertcoss.com/blog/2008/12/25/roves-it-guru-warned-of-sabotage-before-fatal-plane-crash-was-set-to-testify/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<blockquote style="text-align: left; padding: 0px 8px; margin: 4px 0px 8px 0px; background: transparent; border: none;" cite="http://www.truthout.org/122408J"><p>Michael Connell was deposed one day before the election this year by attorneys Cliff Arnebeck and Bob Fitrakis about his actions during the 2004 vote count and his access to Karl Rove&#8217;s e-mail files and how they went missing.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote style="text-align: left; padding: 0px 8px; margin: 4px 0px 8px 0px; background: transparent; border: none;" cite="http://www.truthout.org/122408J"><p>Velvet Revolution, a non-profit investigating Connell&#8217;s activities, revealed this weekend that Connell had recently said he was afraid George Bush and Dick Cheney would &#8220;throw [him] under the bus.&#8221; Cliff Arnebeck had also previously alerted Attorney General Michael Mukasey to alleged threats from Karl Rove to Connell if he refused to &#8220;take the fall.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<blockquote style="text-align: left; padding: 0px 8px; margin: 4px 0px 8px 0px; background: transparent; border: none;" cite="http://www.truthout.org/122408J"><p>He reported threats to his lawyer, Cliff Arnebeck, and Arnebeck all these people were saying Rove is making threats, the White House is very worried about this case.&#8221;This man should be in protective custody. He is an important witness in a RICO case. Please do something</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Obama a Natural Born Citizen? New Developments (11-19-08)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Robert Coss</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[clipped from www.breakthematrix.com Posted by Rick Williams on Wed, 11/19/2008 &#8211; 13:22 in BreakTheMatrix Donofrio argues that the &#8220;birth certificate&#8221; and &#8220;Indonesia&#8221; issues are irrelevant to Obama&#8217;s eligibility to serve as President. The framers recognized that EVEN THEY were not &#8230; <a href="http://robertcoss.com/blog/2008/11/22/obama-a-natural-born-citizen-new-developments-11-19-08/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<td valign="top"><!-- CLIPPED FROM: http://www.breakthematrix.com/node/29723 --> The framers recognized that EVEN THEY were not &#8220;natural born citizens.&#8221; That&#8217;s why they included a grandfather clause to allow any of them to become President.</td>
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